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Okay, Computer: Private Tech Snaps Back to Reality: Freestylin’ with Rick Heitzmann & Chamath Palihapitiya

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🗓️ 1 February 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Dan and FirstMark Capital’s Rick Heitzmann have a chat at the iConnections Global Alts Conference in Miami about the reckoning for poor due diligence in public and private markets (2:00), the VC industry’s biggest lessons from recent excesses (8:00), the record amount of VC dry powder and how Rick is deploying capital (17:00), why Rick is most excited about opportunities in healthcare & AI in 2023 (21:00), and how a reopening of the IPO market will be a key signal to confidently invest again (26:00).  And later, Dan talks with Chamath Palihapitiya, founder & CEO of Social Capital, about the macro climate for investing and why it’s the start of a new phase of sobriety (28:00), what will survive the crash of risk assets (36:00), the problem with growth investing, where to look for signs of a bottom in private tech (42:00), why mounting geopolitical tensions between the U.S. and China will likely be a boon for American companies (46:00), and the rise of large language models in AI and how it may spark the next wave of M&A from big tech (49:00). ---- View our show notes and transcript here ---- Email us at [email protected] with any feedback, suggestions, or questions for us to answer on the pod and follow us @OkayComputerPod. We’re on social: Follow Dan Nathan @RiskReversal on Twitter Follow @GuyAdami on Twitter Follow us on Instagram @RiskReversalMedia Subscribe to our YouTube page

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0:00.0

Welcome to Ok Computer. I'm Dan Nathan. I am down at South Beach at the I Connections Global Alternatives

0:06.9

Conference yesterday on stage. I had two great conversations with VCs that you know and probably

0:12.6

love, the first with Rick Heitzman of First Mark Capital, the second with Chamath Pallihapitia

0:17.2

of Social Capital. We covered a wide range of issues, basically how these guys are deploying

0:23.2

capital right now, some tech trends that are really excited about. And if and when we are going to

0:27.9

come out of this VC tech winner that we might be in. So stick around for both of those conversations.

0:34.0

Great to be here at the I Connections Global Alternatives Conference. Thanks for being at this.

0:39.0

This is my good friend Rick Heitzman. He's the founder and CEO of First Mark Capital. This is one of the

0:44.5

New York City VC OGs. Welcome, Rick. Thanks, Dan. Thanks for having me. Thanks everyone from

0:51.6

I Connection for having me. And, you know, at this

0:54.8

point in the cycle, it's really interesting conversation to have of what we're seeing in a very

0:59.8

different world from what you just heard about, but in venture capital and that facet of the private

1:05.5

market. Yeah, no doubt. I mean, listen, that was a really great conversation we just listened to here.

1:09.2

I mean, he's a co-host of a podcast that he and i do together it's called okay computer and we've been talking about some of the themes

1:14.2

over the last year and a half as some things have been kind of coming unwound in the private

1:19.2

investment world a little bit and a lot of it has to do with the fact of we're all dealing

1:24.5

with this kind of rising rate environment and the other side of the pandemic

1:28.7

and some of the dislocations that we saw because of that.

1:32.7

And so we really want to start out talking about, again, you know, we're calling this panel

1:37.0

a reckoning for poor due diligence.

1:38.8

Rick and I had a podcast.

1:40.1

I think it was almost a year ago.

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