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So Jensen Huang from Nvidia said that he would be deeply alarmed if a $500,000 engineer was not

spending $250,000 worth of tokens. He said he would be deeply alarmed. And Neil and we're just talking about this pre-show. And I think there's some nuances around this that we wanted to talk about. So Neil gave his reaction and I think we can talk about this because I think people need to better understand, I think, what Jensen's trying to say. Yeah, what he's trying to say is he wants people to use AI to do their jobs more efficiently. And Eric and I were talking about him like, yes, him's saying that also benefits him because it generates his company's more money. But even outside of that fact, I do agree with him. I don't think they need to spend $250,000 worth. That I'm not saying he's

necessarily saying they should be spending $250,000 worth, although I got the inclination from what

he was saying is he wants him to spend the money. I was telling Eric, I'm all forwarded them using

AI very heavily, but a lot of it should be through open source because there's a lot of amazing

open source models. And maybe it costs you 30 grand instead of 250 grand and you still get the

same result because you're using a lot of it through open source instead of paying, you know,

the anthropics of the world. I do believe if the pitches, hey, A, will make you more efficient

and save you more money in marketing or whatever you want to do. Well, at the same time, hey, A, will make you more efficient and save you more money

in marketing or whatever you want to do. Well, at the same time, wouldn't I just try to use

other models that are cheaper and cost even more? You know, internally, that's what I would do.

Yeah. So what I would say is this. When he says, when Jensen says, oh, I want everyone to be spending

250K or my 500K software engineer just spend 250K worth of tokens is exactly that. He wants them to spend worth of tokens. So if you do open source, maybe 80 to 90 percent and maybe you're running it on your local infrastructure and then maybe 10 to 20 percent on either the premium tokens, that can still add up to 250K worth of tokens, right? Because yeah do the math that way. So that's what he's saying because the efficiencies you gain from it, it's no different. The analogy he gave was like, you know, it's equivalent to like a designer that doesn't want to use or architect that doesn't want to use CAD tools, right, these design tools. Or it's equivalent to not using the internet today. So I do believe directly he's correct. And obviously, like, what we're, we're just talking about was he's such a great salesman. He's like, I'll be deeply alarmed if he's not using these tokens over here. And he's like, and I heard him in the Lex Freeman interview. He's like, yeah, you know, every computer now, every computer is intelligence factory. I'm like, oh, man, I need to go buy you more computers now, right? Yeah. So, but everything is like, because he, he, Nvidia is like deeply embedded in the supply chain for everything now. Right. So I just, I think he's a genius salesperson, but I do think people should be spending half their salary worth the tokens. And if you're non-engineered listening to this right now, I still think you

should be spending a good chunk because, Neil, I was looking at my cost the other day. I spent on 3.5 billion tokens this month myself. What do you think my spend was on anthropic? Six grand. Close. Very close. Why'd you guess six? Five point six? Why'd you guess six? Because you told me you were $5.6,000 a few days ago. So I assume this month you'd be at six grand the remaining day of.

5.6,000 a few days ago.

So I assume this month you'd be at six grand the remaining day off.

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