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I got to start this with an apology to Jeff Walker who's our interviewee. We recorded

this a long time ago like many months ago and I think Jeff gave up hope that we're ever

going to post it. Anyway, Jeff or Jeff Reef, you want to be formal is a fascinating guy

and a little story about Jeff when when I first started meditating eight or nine years ago,

my younger brother who's a venture capitalist was making fun of me relentlessly and calling

me a weirdo and buying me Eckhart Tolly calendars. Then I told him that this guy Jeff Walker

was meditating and his whole attitude shifted. Jeff Walker is a legendary venture capitalist.

I know what he my brother had heard of. He's a formerly of JP Morgan and an incredibly

successful dude who as you'll hear in this interview got into meditation a long time ago

and has now become a big figure and trying to scale mindfulness up to something that is

widely utilized by all sorts of people. He is a businessman, a meditator, a philanthropist

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