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Jen Kirkman cut my attention because I saw some article about her doing a stand-up routine

which she talked about meditation. I had no idea from the article whether she actually

did meditation but she does and actually she's pretty serious about it. Although she

underplays how serious she is as you will hear. She is if you don't know anything about

her, a very successful stand-up comedian. She's got two specials on Netflix. She's written

a bunch of books and has a really interesting take on meditation. Not only is it pertains

to an average human life but as it pertains to somebody who's trying to be creative and

funny, I give you Jen Kirkman.

From ABC, this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

I'm so nervous because I'm like, what if I'm not enough of a meditation?

We've had people on who don't meditate at all. It's a whole range.

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