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🗓️ 7 July 2023
⏱️ 66 minutes
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0:00 The problem with scientific consensus
6:36 Why Jay and his colleagues were branded “fringe epidemiologists”
15:52 Jay: We need to engage with everyone—even those with mistaken beliefs
25:55 Persuading science skeptics
36:04 How do we stop COVID overreach from happening again?
46:38 Jay: Gain-of-function research is impossible to do safely
55:03 Are some ideas too dangerous to test?
59:30 Jay: Fauci’s blunder was so catastrophic that only history can judge him
Recorded June 23, 2023
Links and Readings
Rav Arora and Jay’s newsletter, The Illusion of Consensus
Doris Kearns Goodwin’s book, Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln
The Great Barrington Declaration
Steve Koonin’s book, Unsettled: What Climate Science Asks Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters
Tjalling Koopman’s, Three Essays on the State of Economic Science
Emily Oster’s Atlantic piece, “Let’s Declare a Pandemic Amnesty”
Richard Feynman demonstrates flaws in Challenger’s O-rings
Roger Shattuck’s book, Forbidden Knowledge: From Prometheus to Pornography
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