Jason Wilson - Becoming The Man The Moment Demands
ManTalks Podcast
Connor Beaton
4.8 • 591 Ratings
🗓️ 27 January 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
Talking points: masculinity, culture, race
It's always a highlight of my life speaking with Jason. This man and his tireless work shaping comprehensive, authentic men is nothing short of inspiring. Deeply grateful to have sat down with him to dig into the nuances of his new book (out Jan 28!), the manosphere, Black America, and what modern men miss out on. Listen. To. This.
(00:00:00) - How Jason’s environment shaped his perception of manhood, and the challenges of hypermasculinity
(00:11:02) - Jason’s take on the idea that men need to build value because they don’t have any inherently
(00:17:40) - What do young men find appealing about the manosphere, in spite of the reactivity and misogyny?
(00:23:39) - Why men don’t share their emotions with women, and what Jason wishes more non-Black men knew about growing up in Black America
(00:35:09) - Do men need extreme hardship in order to have self-respect?
(00:42:11) - On Jason’s new book and being a Comprehensive Man
(00:50:25) - What aspect of a comprehensive man is missing the most in modern culture?
Jason Wilson is the director of the Cave of Adullam Transformational Training Academy and bestselling author of Cry Like a Man and Battle Cry. Since 2005, Jason has been mentoring boys and young men, teaching them how to rise above life's inevitable challenges. His impactful work earned him the President's Volunteer Service Award from President Obama, and acclaimed actor Laurence Fishburne executive produced the award-winning ESPN Films documentary about Jason's work, titled The Cave of Adullam. He is a man of the Most High, a faithful husband to Nicole, and a devoted father to Alexis and Jason II.
Connect with Jason
-Website: https://mrjasonwilson.com/
-NEW Book: The Man The Moment Demands: https://mrjasonwilson.com/the-man-the-moment-demands/
-Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrjasonowilson
-Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mrjasonowilson/
-YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/MrJasonOWilson
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| 0:00.0 | All right, Jason, welcome back to the Man Talk Show, my friend. How are you? |
| 0:10.7 | What's up, Connor, all this well, man. How are you doing? |
| 0:13.0 | I'm good. I'm good. I feel like we pop into each other's lives every once in a while, |
| 0:18.4 | and it's fantastic when we get the chance to just sort of like |
| 0:20.8 | sit down and chat which is good. |
| 0:22.9 | You recall the first time we met, we were in California, TD Jake's show, right? |
| 0:29.0 | TDJX show, yeah. |
| 0:30.2 | That was a wild experience for me. |
| 0:32.6 | You had to get back to your flight. |
| 0:36.1 | You had to make your flight and we were in that LA traffic. It was crazy. Yeah. I think that was like the first time I ever experienced real Los Angeles traffic. I was like, what is happening, man? I grew up in a town of 30,000 people. I didn't know that that type of traffic was a real thing. You know, I'd heard about it. It was rumored. But |
| 0:54.5 | well, I'm looking forward to diving in with you today. You know, we've talked a couple |
| 0:58.5 | times on the show about your work. I wouldn't do that again today. But I kind of want to dive |
| 1:03.8 | into just starting with masculinity first. And I want to get a little bit of an insight into |
| 1:09.8 | what masculinity really kind of meant to you |
| 1:13.7 | growing up, how you thought about it, if you thought about it at all, and how maybe your environment |
| 1:18.1 | shaped your perception of masculinity, because I'm learning more and more that for us as men, |
| 1:23.8 | the locality and the people that we're around growing up can really have a massive influence |
| 1:29.9 | on how we perceive masculinity. That can inform some of the work that we need to do to maybe |
| 1:35.2 | find our real grounded, rooted, mature version of masculinity. So I'm curious to hear how |
| 1:40.4 | your environment shaped your perception growing up. When you say masculinity, you mean the attributes? |
| 1:46.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:47.0 | Strength, boldness and aggression? |
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