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On with Kara Swisher

Jane Fonda on How to Turn Rage Into Hope

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

Society & Culture

4.23.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Jane Fonda has been fighting for social justice for over five decades, but in the past year, she’s kicked things up a notch. This past fall, she relaunched the Committee for the First Amendment, and her environmentally focused political action committee, Jane Fonda Climate PAC, is gearing up for the midterm elections.  The iconic actor and activist talks to Kara about how to fight for democracy and the environment when both are under attack. She breaks down her PACs electoral strategy, explains why artists’ voices matter, and how to use action to beat back depression and despair. And she shares a couple secrets for living well at any age. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I was so depressed.

0:02.3

And then I said, fuck it.

0:04.4

I said, I'm going to make a difference.

0:20.8

Hi, everyone, from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. This is on with

0:23.0

Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher. My guest today is legendary actor and activist Jane Fonda.

0:29.2

Over the past five decades, Jane has fought for peace, civil rights, indigenous rights,

0:33.8

women's rights, and the environment, among others. And Jane is fighting harder than ever.

0:38.7

She recently relaunched the committee for the First Amendment. She's been outspoken in her

0:42.4

defense of democracy against the threat of Trumpist authoritarianism. And her political action

0:47.1

committee, the Jane Fonda Climate Pack, has helped elect over 200 candidates across the country.

0:52.9

I'm excited to talk to her because I'm exhausted and she's

0:56.1

not and therefore I can't be. One of the things about Jane Fonda is she was very right during

1:01.3

Vietnam and she's very right now. She's always been on the cutting edge of things and most importantly,

1:06.4

as opposed to a lot of people from Hollywood, which you feel kind of is a mile wide and a foot deep,

1:10.4

she really walks the talk and does do activism in a way that I think is very effective and is part of,

1:16.5

you know, the broader culture of people in Hollywood and celebrities doing it, but she's

1:21.3

incredibly effective. Our expert question comes from someone else I really like Chelsea

1:26.0

Handler, who Jane did a solid

1:28.8

for once and you can hear about that soon. Jane isn't just a legend. She's an inspiration.

1:33.8

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