This is a Global Player Original podcast.

Hello there, welcome to Run Pod.

I'm Jenny Faulkner.

And listen, whether you love running or detest it with a passion, one thing is for certain,

it's a great way to boost your fitness.

It's free and you will feel good afterwards.

And one person who's been quoted saying he's not the greatest fan of running or jogging or

anything in that realm is today's guest. But it came with the territory when he was a full-time

pro rugby player and to this day he is still really passionate about fitness and maintaining

a decent exercise regime.

He's not only a former England international.

He's also an author, a podcaster, an international DJ and what a gin pioneer, I'd say as well.

Welcome to Run Pod, James Haskell.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for having me on.

Listen, I'll clear it up straight away, right.

So I have said, as I said before, if you want to get into sort of mad shape, like athletic shape, everyone reaches their trainers like New Year and New You. And I've said, do you know what? Whenever you have mental health issues, whatever, they always say exercise and cooking are great ways of kind of expressing yourself. And I spent my whole career running and I actually love running.

But purposeful fitness running.

I could never, I'm not built to do long distance kind of reflective running.

So I said to people, if you want to get the body you want, go and lift some weights.

But I do actually love running.

So I feel like I've misrepresented myself. It is amazing.

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