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Jimmy's Jobs of the Future

IWD Special - Anne Boden - Higher standards for diverse groups in the workplace

Jimmy's Jobs of the Future

Boxlight Creative Studio

Careers, Business, Technology

5.01K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2022

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

This is one in a short series of episodes, taking a look back at some of the amazing female entrepreneurs we’ve had on the podcast in celebration of International Women’s Day. Things haven’t gotten easier for women in the last 30 years. Anne Boden CEO and Founder of Starling Bank exemplifies what female entrepreneurs can achieve in the tech and finance spheres. She talks about the higher standards diverse groups are held to and how building her bank was fuelled by proving these people wrong. Subscribe so you don't miss any new episodes, releasing every Wednesday.You can sign up to Jimmy's Substack here for weekly content on the future of work, technology, and politicsFor more information on partnering with us please visit our partnerships page here.Also make sure you subscribe to The Shift, you can find it here on Spotify or on Apple Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Jimmy's Jobs of the Future. This is the first in a series of short podcast

0:13.4

episodes that will be releasing this week to coincide with International Women's Day.

0:19.2

It comes from some of our best female guests over the last 18 months and some of the inspirational

0:24.7

advice that they have parted on this show with us. The first being Anne Bowden, the founder

0:31.4

of Starlink Bank. Anne Bowden is an incredibly inspirational leader. She goes very much against

0:38.8

the grain of what we expect a stereotypical fintech founder to look like. A Welsh woman

0:45.8

in her 50s is not that stereotype and it's a great example of talking to Anne about the

0:52.2

various challenges that she faced and some of the stereotypes and the challenges that she

0:57.6

came across. It exemplifies what female entrepreneurs can achieve though. She talks about the highest

1:03.6

standards that she believed that she was held to whilst building the bank and that fueled her

1:09.2

passion for proving people wrong. No, I don't think things have got easier for women

1:17.7

over the last 30 years. I made my career in finance and technology and now I'm an entrepreneur.

1:23.6

There were never new women in finance, there were never new women in tech and there aren't

1:27.6

any women in entrepreneurship. I think the reason for this is that those businesses, those spheres

1:34.2

are very, very tough on women. You have to be better than the guys. The standards that you're

1:40.4

held to are higher than for men. So as a diverse group, tend to be held to higher standards,

1:48.2

tend to be criticised more. So if you listen to somebody describing a woman in a powerful

1:55.4

job or in a professional job or some sort, listen and see how often they either describe

2:01.8

her as being too tough or too soft and sometimes both together. She can't get it right. It is a

2:10.6

different sort of criticism that men don't get. I think that's very fair. How much of that has

2:17.8

driven you though at points to prove people wrong? I mean, the book is a, as I've said already,

2:23.2

is a great read and it's a great story and not all business books are great stories at all. You talk

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