Hello, everyone. You're listening to Family Talk, a radio broadcasting ministry of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Dr. James Dobson, and thank you for joining us for this program.

Well, welcome to Family Talk, the broadcast division of the Dr. James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Roger Marsh.

You know, as Christians, we can all expect to go through trials of some sort, both big and small.

And during a season of trial, we can take great comfort in knowing that even though you're going through hardship,

the Lord is walking with you and will always make a way forward for you.

On today's edition of Dr. James Dobson's family talk, we're joined by multiple Dove award-winning artist Nicole C. Mullen.

Now, if that name rings a bell, you will definitely remember her worldwide hit songs like Redeemer and Call on Jesus.

Well, Nicole has certainly walked through her own seasons of heartache and abuse, learning to find hope through God's redemptive love.

And she's also written a brand new book to encourage you. It's called It's Never Wrong to Do You,

courageous stories to inspire godly decisions. Now, today's conversation was recorded shortly before Dr. Dobson went home to be with the

Lord, and Nicole's story will remind you that God can transform even your deepest hurts

into something really beautiful.

That's coming your way on today's edition of Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk.

On Facebook. on today's edition of Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk. Thank you so much, Roger.

Thank you for having me.

And thank you to Dr. Dobson and his wife.

I, too, grew up on them.

Just like Tori was saying, she grew up on me.

Well, I grew up on them.

So we're all in the same race. And the baton is just being passed around. So it's an honor to be here. Well, it's great to have you here. And of course, the Renaissance woman, Nicole C. Mullin, as I mentioned in the intro, you are a Dove Award winner, as far as you're singing goes. You Grammy nominated. So the question that will always be asked, of course, is how did you get started?

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