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I'm Roger Marsh, and today we're continuing revisiting Dr. Dobson's classic conversation with

John Smith Baker, the founder of the ministry, Fathers in the Field.

This Christ-centered ministry provides mentors to the estimated 13 million fatherless

boys all across America. On the last edition of Family Talk, John shared his own painful

journey about growing up without a father. On today's program, he'll reveal how forgiveness

became the key to his healing and how God transformed his personal pain into a mission to help boys who are

walking that same difficult path. That's coming up right now as we begin, this classic edition

of Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk.

In the case of boys, they're not born knowing how to be a man.

They have to learn that.

This was no small thing in your life.

When you were young, you knew something was missing.

And you're a sensitive man.

You're not a guy just who could forget it and go on with life.

You had a need to be with your dad and there was no hope that that was going to happen.

And it hurt you. Explain again and then we'll move on.

No, it's devastating. I knew that I was broken and hurt.

At the same time, everyone was telling me to get over it and big boys don't cry, but I knew I was

hurt. So as much as I tried to forget about it, my soul could not. And then typically what happens

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