Well, hello, everyone. I'm James Dobson, and you're listening to Family Talk, a listener-supported ministry.

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Well, welcome to Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. As parents and spouses, we face

countless decisions every day that test our character and our faith. Should we speak up when we

see something wrong? How do we respond when our children make mistakes? And what do we do when

following God's way seems to put us at risk?

Well, today here on Family Talk, we're continuing our conversation with Grammy-nominated

artist Nicole C. Mullen about a brand-new book called It's Never Wrong to Do the Right Thing,

courageous stories to inspire godly decisions. Now, you may know Nicole best for her powerful song called

Redeemer, but she's also a devoted Bible student who finds deep encouragement in the stories of

biblical heroes who demonstrated remarkable courage. In today's discussion, Nicole will share

practical wisdom from women like Hannah, who learned to truly release her burdens to God, and Abigail,

who had to make difficult decisions to protect her family. Nicole will also open up about her own

family and how they have modeled courage through adoption and foster care. So let's rejoin our

conversation right now on today's edition of Family Talk.

My 22-year-old son and I, we had a conversation yesterday,

and we were talking about how the Lord disciplines those that he loves.

And sometimes in that discipline, you have to remove certain things.

Sometimes that discipline, or most of the time, the discipline doesn't feel fun, but it's something that will yield great fruit in the future if we surrender

to what the Lord has for us and what he is doing to us and in us. And my son reminded me of something,

Roger, that I would do to him back in the day. And I remember he and his brother one time, they had gotten into it and they were younger. And my youngest son had said something to his older brother that wasn't nice. And I stopped and I said, Lord, what do I do? I just had one of those moments. What do I do? Because I was so frustrated. And, you know, I never wanted to discipline my children out of frustration. You know, because my parents didn't do that to us. And so I felt like the Lord told me to tell him to get the Bible, go in the other room, and read it until something speaks to him. Now, I had never done this before, but I said to him, I said, okay, Josiah, get the Bible. And so he was like, well, what am I going to read? I said, I don't know. And I'm thinking, Lord, what is he going to read? Because you didn't tell me that part.

Yeah, right. You didn't tell me that part. And so he went into the other room. Yes, ma'am, got the Bible, went into the other room, stayed for about 10, 15 minutes. And then he came out. And I said, you know, what did you read? Did you read something? And he said, well, I did, but I don't know.

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