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Dharmapunx NYC

It Doesn't Have to Make Any Sense At All

Dharmapunx NYC

josh korda

Buddhism, Religion & Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality:buddhism

4.8938 Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2016

⏱️ 27 minutes

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0:00.0

When I was in college, we were in this class I took, asked to read an essay by a wonderful American

0:10.1

cultural critic named Susan Sontag, who was written in 1966, so it's now, it's actually 50 years since its publication.

0:20.0

It was called very, very, very important essay. It actually had a lot of repercussions in the world of art and cultural criticism.

0:38.6

And you might at first wonder why I'm going to give, I'm going to intro the talk with this, but I think it will become pretty apparent.

0:46.2

In this article, Susan Santak says that there's two kinds of ways we can look, ways we can

0:51.0

look at art. The first is what she calls the interpretive way. Interpretation is the kind of

1:01.6

awareness that tries to extract a concealed message from art.

1:07.0

It asks the question, what does this mean?

1:10.0

So sometimes when you look at a painting or you watch a movie, you might be wondering,

1:17.0

okay, what's the point? What's this trying to tell me? What's this trying to get across?

1:25.0

And in essence, we're translating a very rich experience into an idea. We're trying to extract meaning from experience. This

1:39.1

tendency to interpret limits the freedom of our subjective response and that it puts the

1:47.8

fundamental importance of our impressions and the way we feel looking at a piece of our aside and just ask that we try to make sense of it.

1:59.0

We try to figure out art like it's a puzzle, like it's got some underlying moral that we're supposed to come away from.

2:07.0

And it creates a certain degree of anxiety that maybe everybody else in the movie theater or looking at this painting gets it, you know, standing in front of a Mark Rothko or Jackson Pollack painting.

2:21.0

Maybe they see something that I don't maybe they know what this means.

2:26.0

The second form of looking at art she said is formalist and it's not a great label but the idea is that it simply looks at art in terms of what is my experience with this piece.

2:42.0

How do I take it in? how do I feel when I look at it, and how was this

2:47.0

piece formally put together in it of itself? So do we like the way the brush strokes? Do we like the composition? Do we like the

2:58.8

choice of colors? Everything we need to know looking at a piece of art is there. We don't need to extract anything hidden. There's nothing to figure out.

3:08.0

For instance, if you're interpreting a movie, you're trying to figure out what does aliens, I'm saying this for my friend Barthley, what does it mean?

3:17.0

What does aliens mean? You might, some people interpret aliens as an allegory about the Vietnam War.

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