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This is CBS Eye in the World. I'm John Bachelors.

The October 7th attack on Israeli citizens.

We've heard details, but no particular explanation of how a mass managed to overcome the Israeli defenses.

Both electronic and human.

There is the beginning of a conversation having to do with drones and cyber.

I welcome Patrick Tucker, the technology editor of Defense One.

Patrick, a good evening to you.

What did you learn from the drone analysis group DroneSec

about parts of the Hamas offensive using drones? Good evening to you.

Good evening. So yes, one of the weird hallmarks of the Hamas attack of October 7th

is a very, for that group, very sophisticated use of small consumer drones like DJI,

quadcopter drones, modified and equipped to carry explosives which they used to find

and then destroy or at least damage.

Very important strategic targets in addition to the news or all following the random,

horrible targeting of civilians, the taking of hostages, the hurting of children,

the hurting of the elderly. They also executed strategic strikes on things like tanks,

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