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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Israel At War: Week IV - with Muli Segev & Simon Sebag Montefiore

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Yonit Levi, Israel, Israel Podcast, Jonathan Freedland, Middle East, Jewish, Religion & Spirituality, Jews, Society & Culture

4.7 • 680 Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2023

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

The war intensifies with Israel’s ground incursion into Gaza, a Palestinian death toll now estimated to be above 8,000 and still no word on the 240 Israeli hostages held by Hamas. Yonit and Jonathan discuss Benjamin Netanyahu’s tweeted – and then deleted - attempt to divert the blame for Israel’s vulnerability on 7 October to others, the increasing US pressure on Israel over its conduct of the war and the phenomenal volunteer movement that has reshaped Israeli civil society in a matter of weeks. Plus: they talk to Muli Segev, the man behind Eretz Nehederet, the acclaimed TV satire show which has become essential viewing for Israelis, even at a time of war – and to award-winning historian Simon Sebag Montefiore, on why “decolonisation” theory gets the Israel-Palestine conflict so badly wrong.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0:00.0

Week four and the war intensifies Israel's ground incursion into Gaza begins.

0:07.0

We'll be speaking to one of the Jewish world's leading historians and to Israel's foremost satirist.

0:14.0

How do you make people laugh at a time like this?

0:17.4

It's unholy. I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London. And I'm Uni

0:22.1

Levi of Channel 12 in Tel Aviv.

0:23.6

Inholy, Two Jews on the News. As you said, Jonathan, we are at week four, which saw the expansion of the ground incursions,

0:42.2

the IDF forces now, according to reports, pushing deep into the Gaza Strip,

0:47.6

encircling Gaza City.

0:49.6

Also, the first large-scale IDF casualties because of, you know, the reason that Israel is fighting

0:56.6

a force like Hamas in an urban area where they are entrenched among civilians and Israel doesn't

1:02.3

want to hurt civilians. This makes it for very, very difficult. So a large number of Israeli soldiers

1:08.1

dying in the last six days of this incursion. Of course, more than

1:15.2

1,200 Israelis murdered by Hamas in the terror attack of October 7th, 240 hostages held by

1:25.6

Hamas and reports in Gaza, those are the reports coming out under by Hamas and reports in Gaza.

1:28.3

Those are the reports coming out under the Hamas authorities of more than 8,000 Palestinians

1:34.7

dead in the attacks by the Israeli Air Force.

1:38.8

This is where we are.

1:39.6

At the same time, rockets are still raining down on Israeli cities.

1:43.1

Obviously anti-Israeli demonstration,

1:45.8

anti-Jewish demonstrations, really being, having an uptick this week. We will talk about that

1:51.7

and more and more calls for a ceasefire. Israel is still waiting to see what Chisbalah on the northern

1:57.1

part of Israel is planning a very important speech by the leader of

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