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Hello and welcome to Coffeehouse Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Isabel Hardman and this is the Sunday roundup.

The housing secretary Robert Jenrick was the government's chief spokesman today as

England edges ever closer towards the planned

relaxation of COVID restrictions on July the 19th.

Jenric told Trevor Phillips that the government was still cautiously optimistic.

I think we are now reaching a different phase in the virus. We're not going to put the COVID-19

virus behind us forever. We're going to have to learn to live with it.

But thanks to the enormous success of our vaccine program, the fact that now we've got

to the point where 83% of adults in this country have had at least one jab, we should be able

to think about how we can return to normality as much as possible.

And the data that we're seeing that the prime minister is reviewing at the moment ahead of

his decision point on the roadmap looks very positive. It does seem as if we can now move

forward and move to a much more permissive regime

where we move away from many of those restrictions that have been so difficult for us.

And as you say, learn to live with the virus.

That does mean that we're going to have to treat it carefully.

We're going to have to keep on monitoring the cases, and we're going to have to

ensure that every adult gets double-vaxed, because that is the key to keeping the virus under

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