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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots at Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Katie Balls and I'm joined by James Forsyfe and Isabel Hardman.

And today we are going to be hearing an announcement from the Prime Minister about the 19th of

July. James, over the

weekend ministers have been taking to the airwaves, sounding very pro the so-called Freedom Day,

and it sounds like finally, four weeks later than planned, Boris Johnson is leaning towards a

big bang reopening. Can you tell us the details? Yeah. So I think the first thing to know is that

technically this will not be the decision on whether to go ahead at the 19th of July. That will not

come until the week beforehand. But what this will set out is if they go ahead with the 19th

July, which seems going to be 90% plus surciman at the moment, given everything that they're saying,

this is how it would work. And

essentially what you'd be left with is that the only legal requirement left would be the requirement

to isolate if you test positive for COVID. So the one meter rule goes, the mask mandate goes,

all of these things go. Now, this is inevitably going to lead to a rising

cases and I think you see ministers trying to prepare the public for this kind of exit wave to expect.

And I think it's also going to create a debate about what you should do because it's worth noting,

for example, that masks will no longer be required by law to be worn in shops or on public transport.

But that wouldn't mean that it would be illegal for a shop to say, only enter this shop if you are wearing a mask.

Or, for example, Transport for London to say, we think you should wear masks on, you know, you won't be able to get on an

underground train unless you are wearing a mask. I think you see ministers, you know, trying to

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