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The Bulwark Podcast

Isaac Saul: The Mind-Blowing Self-Dealing in the Oval Office

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Politics, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.6 • 11.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Trump's corruption is so astonishing, extensive, and overwhelming that most people can't keep up with all the ways he's profiting off his presidency every single day. Isaac examined the reporting on the First Family's self-dealing in Trump's second term, and he's compiled the most exhaustive accounting of it so far. Just two examples: Trump's sons are doing business with a criminal syndicate that stole billions from Americans; and Trump last year branded a cellphone, had it certified by the FCC, and never delivered them to buyers who paid $100 for the device. The Dems are not doing nearly enough to highlight Trump's corruption. Plus, Saudi-paid Jared really needs to testify before Congress, the value of a news source that breaks our algorithmic siloes, and the risk of the Iran war just fading into the background.

Tangle News' Issac Saul joins Tim Miller. 

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. It's Tim. I got a couple favors for you before we get to the pod. I don't ask you for favors very much. All right. So I'm hoping that you'll give me a chance on this one. With yesterday's pod and today's, frankly, they're both like a little off of the never Trump porn that I usually give you guys. And I was delighted by the guests yesterday, Arash and Jody.

0:24.0

And I do think it's an opportunity to, you know, if you've got somebody in your life that maybe

0:29.4

isn't looking for the never Trump outrage of the day, but is in the market for podcasts and

0:34.8

wants to learn more, wants to learn about what Iran wants and why, wants

0:39.6

to get some advice for the college grad in their life or hear about the latest from SCOTUS

0:45.1

or the Me Too movement. I'd appreciate you to take yesterday's pod and send it to somebody

0:49.0

because that's how we grow and expand the audience here. It's how new people learn about us.

0:55.3

I'm excited to report to you guys that we had more audio downloads last month in April than we've

1:01.6

ever had in the history of the podcast. I think Donald Trump fucking up the economy probably gets a

1:06.7

little bit of his assist on that, but I think it's mostly y'all for spreading the word.

1:12.0

And so I'm just super grateful for that.

1:14.4

And I don't know, I'm always looking for opportunities to kind of bring in new people.

1:18.8

And I think that yesterday's pod might do that for a certain type of listener.

1:24.5

That's for today's show, Isaac Saul.

1:27.1

I think especially the most hyper-engaged

1:30.1

and aware and news-watching obsessives among the listeners. His outlet, Tangle News, is probably not

1:36.3

for you. And that's fine. That's cool. But what he's offering, I think, is something really valuable

1:42.5

to people who are maybe reachable in the Donald Trump orbit,

1:49.4

not the Red Hat people, but the people that maybe went along with them for whatever,

1:53.3

because they were upset with inflation. And I get this question sometimes, which is like,

1:57.6

hey, I've got a MAGA person in my life, which of your things should I send them, Tim?

2:03.6

And it's like, my hair is so on fire.

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