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Noah Kagan Presents

Is This A.I. Slop?

Noah Kagan Presents

Noah Kagan

Entrepreneurship, Business

4.8 β€’ 1K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

We were spending $56K/year on AI tools at AppSumo. A dozen subscriptions, nobody sharing anything. So we killed all of it and put the entire company on one Claude plan. Let's go.

This episode I break down exactly how we rolled out AI to every single teammate in 3 weeks, why the tool itself wasn't the secret (the shared platform we built on top was), and the wild stuff that happened when non-technical people started building their own automations. From our deal of the day going from 25 minutes to 60 seconds, to our payroll specialist who'd never opened terminal building skills in her first week.

In this conversation you'll enjoy 3 BIG things:
  • How we saved $32K/year by killing every AI subscription and going all-in on one platform β€” and the exact 3-day rollout we used to get full adoption
  • The real use cases that are changing how AppSumo operates β€” deal cards in 60 seconds, BD running everything from one screen, and our CMO shipping 6 AI skills in a single week
  • Why the Slack channel #ai_daily became our secret weapon and how horizontal learning (not top-down training) is what actually drives AI adoption


Enjoy these 3 things plus many nuggets along the way.
My book Million Dollar Weekend breaks down how to start a business in simple steps you can do in one weekend.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

So was this AI generated then? I think it's pretty noticeable. The intonation and spacing is weird.

0:10.4

Really weird, but with punctuation and intonation in the wrong places. Just got some real stick for this on his new

0:17.4

episode, people complaining that it was AI and there's only a few sentences changed with the AI, but people notice, they tune out and they unsub. If this episode is

0:25.0

every word AI, I'd be hesitant doing this if I was you. Your personality is the best thing

0:30.4

about your podcast. And what people love, this just zapped it, in my honest opinion. Are you sure

0:37.3

you want me to put it out? That was Jason, the podcast editor,

0:44.0

after I sent him this episode. And I think we're going to title this episode,

0:48.6

is this an AI slot podcast? Something like that. We'll figure out a funny and good marketing

0:52.7

ish title for you guys.

0:58.3

But then I responded to Jason. I just wanted to read this thread because I sent him this episode ahead of it. I said, hey dude. Yo, bro. I trust your call. I like it as a test, but could

1:05.2

you tell right away? And then this is Jason. And he was the one who said that first message. He said, first,

1:12.1

I thought you were sick, not yourself like in a low mood. Then as I got to the end of sentences,

1:18.1

it just seemed odd. Then I was convinced you were reading a script and it's not your usual style,

1:23.2

but the end I already twigged. I don't know what the hell is a twig before you even said that it was

1:28.2

AI. I always said the best thing about your show is your personality. Noah. I'm with you, man.

1:35.6

More, I wanted to see if people could really tell the difference. Jason again, you being you is the

1:40.4

best. There was more back and forth and then Jason ended it with this. I think this

1:46.4

AI work in creative roles is kind of a race to the bottom sometimes. It's great for organizing

1:51.0

and admin. All the things you mentioned in the episode are really cool things that AI does well.

1:55.9

Just they're no good at being a person or a creative one at that. And something a lot of your peers in

2:00.5

the tech world might need reminding of before we spin into a black hole of bland homogenized

2:05.4

guff. Hell yeah, Jason. I love you, man. And I love every one of you gorgeous listeners.

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