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War on the Rocks

Is the Winston Churchill Bust Weeping?

War on the Rocks

War on the Rocks

News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2017

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, WOTR's Ryan Evans interviews John Bew about the state of the "special relationship" between the United States and the United Kingdom as the presidency of Donald Trump unfolds. How is Prime Minister Theresa May trying to manage British relations with the United States? Is Parliament making it easier or harder for her? What does Brexit mean for British power? Will Britain start to more seriously commit to a higher defense budget? Is the Winston Churchill bust in the White House a useful symbol of the special relationship (spoiler: no)? John tackles these questions and more, ending on a note of optimism on this most resilient of alliances. But that's not all! There's also a dash of Asia in this episode. Ryan called up Van Jackson, the host of Pacific Pundit, about the grand American presidential tradition of ignoring North Korea. About our guests: John Bew is Professor of History and Foreign Policy at the War Studies Department at King's College London. He is the author of Realpolitik: A History and, most recently, Clement Attlee: The Man Who Made Modern Britain. John is leading a project on Britain's place in the world for the think tank Policy Exchange. Van Jackson is a senior editor at War on the Rocks. Van is the author of Rival Reputations: Coercion and Credibility in US-North Korea Relations. He is an associate professor at the Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies (APCSS) and an adjunct senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS). The views expressed are his own. Please check out his podcast, Pacific Pundit.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on strategy, defense and foreign affairs.

0:12.0

My name is Ryan Evans.

0:13.0

I'm the editor-in-the-rocks.

0:15.1

In this episode, there are two guests.

0:16.7

First, I called up John Bue to talk about where the special relationship between the US

0:20.1

and the UK is heading.

0:21.5

John is Professor of History and Foreign Policy at the War Studies Department at Kings College

0:25.0

London.

0:26.0

He's the author of Real Politique, a history, and is leading a project on Britain's place in the world

0:29.6

for the Think Tank Policy Exchange.

0:31.8

His most recent book, Clement Attleyley, The Man Who Made Modern Britain,

0:34.8

is coming out in the U.S. this month. This is the American edition. In the UK it's already

0:39.0

won numerous awards, including Best Book in the Parliamentary Book Awards.

0:43.0

But there's also a Dash of Asia right in the middle of this episode.

0:45.8

I spoke for that with Van Jackson.

0:47.6

Van is an associate professor at the Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies in Honolulu.

0:51.8

He is also an adjunct senior fellow at the Center for

0:53.8

New American Security in Washington, as well as most importantly, of course, a senior editor for

0:57.9

War on the Rocks. Fan is the author of rival reputations, coercion and credibility in U.S. North Korea relations, which just came

1:05.2

out last year.

1:06.7

And for our purposes, I should also note that Van is the host of the excellent podcast that

1:10.8

he produces with War on the Rocks called Pacific Punted.

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