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🗓️ 13 June 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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0:28 The Trump-Musk blowup, reconciliation, and fallout 21:10 Trump vs Elon: a psycho-analysis 26:43 Where do Trump and Elon go from here? 30:42 Remembering Brian Wilson and Sly Stone 39:48 Will AI turn us all into narcissists? 46:31 Heading to Overtime
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (https://smallpotatoes.paulbloom.net, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded June 12, 2025.
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0:00.0 | You're listening to Robert Wright's non-zero podcast. |
0:27.3 | Hello, Paul Bloom. |
0:33.1 | Hello, Robert Wright. |
0:34.2 | How are you? |
0:35.4 | You know, I'm just living the dream. |
0:37.4 | How are you doing? |
0:39.0 | I'm living the dream as well. |
0:41.5 | What a coincidence. People are seeing me from a different angle, so to speak, because we are no longer using Zoom. We are using Zencastra. |
0:50.2 | By the way, you might want to move toward the middle of the frame if you actually want people to be able to see you. |
0:55.0 | Is that better? |
0:56.3 | A little technical guidance. |
0:58.2 | Arguably, yes. |
0:59.0 | Let me introduce this. |
0:59.9 | I'm Robert Wright, publisher, Nons Zero newsletter. |
1:03.0 | This is a NONZER podcast. |
1:04.6 | Rate and review. |
1:05.6 | Smash the like button and so on. |
1:07.6 | You're Paul Bloom. |
1:09.4 | Subscribe to Paul's well-known newsletter, Small Potatoes, |
1:14.8 | your famous Canadian psychologist and so many other things that time doesn't permit us to |
1:22.8 | review them. |
1:24.0 | You know what we have today, Paul, is an unusual alignment of interest between you and me. |
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