The Bert show.

Keep them separate.

Friendship, family, and business.

Keep them all separate is what some people say, but Kay Lee is like, I don't know.

I don't know.

I mean, I know the rule, but I just don't know if in this case I should follow the rule

So when have you ever followed the rules? Yeah, I don't really yeah. I mean so I guess I would probably, I gamble.

Yeah, let's just save ourselves five minutes and say, do the wrong thing.

I guess you're right. I mean, it's probably, that's probably the safe bet.

But have you ever mixed business with friends and family before I've never like no I mean not not a

Fisher podcast well he's yeah, I mean he's a yeah, he's a good he's one of my best friends yeah I guess you could say

how that worked out

it didn't work out I mean you know did it have the I feel like when you put a lot of pressure on like the end

result and you get hung up on like the

definitive outcome you kind of set yourself up for disappointment sometimes so I didn't with

the podcast I didn't necessarily have a definitive outcome but without going down that road I wouldn't be where I am right

now which is I'm in a great place I'm in a great place I'm in a great place to mess up

another decision right so now you, I wouldn't have this opportunity to screw things up potentially if I wouldn't have gone down that road.

So one of my great friends, who's a super talented guy and he used to be in radio used to work

in this building actually for a while if he's super talented no wonder why he's not

in radio anymore we try to push those people out. Yeah yeah I mean as I've seen

come through the doors over the years. Not necessarily Burt show but like the radio

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