From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to stay tuned.

I'm Preet Bharara.

The Chinese side came in feeling as if they had figured out how to work both with and against Trump.

He was inclined to try to create moments of crisis, and then if they stood up to him, they were almost

uniquely capable of making him back down.

Welcome to stay tuned. I'm Freed Barrara. My guest this week is Evan Osnos. He is, as many

listeners of this show know, an author and a staff writer at The New Yorker.

Evan is a frequent guest of the show because he has the rare ability to explain power from the

inside out. He does this through deeply reported human-scale portraits of leaders, systems, and

national change. One of his main areas of coverage has been China, and he's just returned from

Beijing, where he was covering

the historic Trump-Shi summit. That's coming up. Stay tuned.

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