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Criminal Conduct

Is Alex Murdaugh a Red Collar Criminal? (bonus)

Criminal Conduct

Creative Babble

True Crime, Society & Culture

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Alex Murdaugh, once a respected lawyer, has been found guilty of murdering his wife and son. But the story doesn't end there. Murdaugh is also entangled in a web of fraud accusations, raising questions that go beyond a simple case of murder. This episode delves into the concept of 'Red Collar' crime, when white-collar offenders resort to violence to avoid detection. Murdaugh's situation presents a unique case study: Could his violent acts be a cover-up for his fraudulent activities? We examine how the dual aspects of his crimes intertwine, offering a rare glimpse into the world of red-collar criminality. Join us as we explore the depths of Alex Murdaugh's case, where financial deceit meets brutal violence." In this bonus episode of CRIMINAL CONDUCT podcast, we're joined by Frank Perri, an attorney, CPA, and certified fraud examiner. 00:00 Intro 01:57 John Taylor's take on Alex Murdaugh 02:08 Interview with Frank Perri Frank Perri's book "Red Collar White Collar Crime": https://www.amazon.com/Red-Collar-White-Crime-Corporate/dp/B09BGLZ7XL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Creative Battle.

0:06.0

So, John, we have another bonus episode this week.

0:09.0

I'm actually, I drove to Charlotte, North Carolina to meet up with Frank Perry, who's an attorney, he's a CPA, and a certified fraud investigator.

0:19.0

And this is a guy who coined the term red collar criminal have you heard of this?

0:25.1

I had heard of it briefly and and kind of explain it's like an overlap between a

0:29.0

white collar criminal and a violent criminal or something? Is that right?

0:32.6

Yeah, that's what I thought at first, actually.

0:34.4

But I covered this on pretense.

0:37.0

So people may have already listened to those episodes.

0:40.0

But a red collar criminal is actually a subset of a white collar criminal.

0:44.1

So it's not that it's a bend diagram of where you have like a white collar criminal and

0:48.8

a murderer and that makes him a red collar criminal. According to Frank Perry, a red collar criminal.

0:52.5

According to Frank Perry, a red collar criminal

0:55.1

is somebody who murders you or commits an act of violence

0:59.4

in order to conceal their fraud, right?

1:02.0

In order to prevent being caught.

1:04.7

So that is a very specific definition of a red collar criminal.

1:09.7

And Frank Perry, he wanted to talk to me

1:12.2

about the Murdoch case

1:13.6

to find out, hey, is the Murdoch case a red-collar crime?

1:18.4

Like, what do you think?

1:19.5

Without talking to Frank Perry,

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