Robert Hanssen: The Spy Within - An Interview with Major Garrett

Criminal Conduct

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True Crime, Society & Culture

4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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In this captivating bonus episode of Criminal Conduct, we sit down with CBS News Chief Washington Correspondent Major Garrett, a veteran journalist with an astute understanding of America's most complex criminal cases. Major Garrett delves into the double life of Robert Hanssen, a man who led a dark, deceitful existence at the heart of American intelligence. Hanssen, a former FBI agent, committed unthinkable acts of betrayal against his country, becoming known as the most damaging spy in FBI history. Garrett, with his incisive analysis and extensive knowledge, unravels the chilling truth behind Hanssen's motives and actions. He explains how Hanssen's espionage severely compromised national security and led to a complete overhaul of internal procedures within the FBI and the intelligence community. This episode is not just a recounting of historical facts but a deep dive into the psychological and emotional aspects of Hanssen's life. Garrett discusses the intricate web of deceit, the dual life Hanssen led, and the impact his actions had on his family and colleagues. Subscribe to Agent of Betrayal: https://wondery.com/shows/agent-of-betrayal-the-double-life-of-robert-hanssen/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Creative Battle.
0:06.1	So, Javier and I are working on season 5 of criminal conduct, which should be out in early
0:10.9	2024.
0:12.3	But in the meantime, we kind of want to just keep things rolling and keep putting out episodes.
0:16.6	We've landed a number of bonus episodes. And today, Javier got another really interesting interview.
0:23.8	Yeah, and I'm really excited about today's bonus episode
0:26.2	because we're talking with Major Garrett.
0:28.8	Some of you might recognize Major Garrett's name.
0:30.9	You may have seen him at the White House press briefings. That's
0:34.6	because Major Garrett is a Washington correspondent for CBS News. He's he's
0:39.7	always asking the president questions, but this time, you know, he had like all of us some downtime during the pandemic and wanted to work on a podcast, a narrative podcast about Robert Hanson, the American spy.
0:54.7	Yeah, I mean, this case has fascinated me for so long because I was living in the DC area,
1:00.7	and that's where this took place, Robert Hansen was an FBI agent but he was
1:05.7	giving secrets or selling secrets to the Russians. It almost seems like Robert
1:10.4	Hanson was operating in plain sight and if only someone would have looked at it and put all the pieces together he probably would have been caught sooner.
1:20.0	But you know this new podcast is called the agent of betrayal the double life of Robert
1:25.3	Hanson and I thought I knew about this case and you thought you knew about this case
1:29.8	but I was John there's an episode that was really revealing because not only is this guy a spy, right?
1:37.5	He's already living a double life, but he's living a double life even within the life that you know everybody knew right like that he was this good husband he was a man of faith
1:49.9	You know anti-communist there was he was having a relationship with with a stripper for
1:58.4	over a year and it was a very interesting relationship and also the things that he was doing to his wife and in terms of voyeurisms.
2:09.0	There was parts of the story that I just didn't know and were really fascinating.
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