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Robert Wright's Nonzero

Is AI Moving Too Fast? (Robert Wright & Timothy B. Lee)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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0:33 Tim seeks Substack synergy beyond Bob 3:21 Recent contributors to Bob’s AI anxiety 9:36 Why “Mamba” matters 13:53 Is AI moving too fast? 24:12 Are fears of an AI “jobocalypse” overblown? 35:02 AI’s (potential) next transformation 38:15 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Timothy B. Lee (Full Stack Economics, Understanding AI). Recorded January 4, 2024.

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0:00.0

You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.

0:33.2

Hi, Tim.

0:35.1

Hey, Bob.

0:35.8

Happy New Year to you. How's your New Year going? Good so far. I've got a little co-working office with some other substackers here. So it's fun to kind of have some co-workers. Oh, cool. Is that like a WiiWorks or what? Yeah, it's a former WeWorks. The WeWorks, you know, WeWorks imploded. So this one, I guess they got out of their lease, but the landlord turned it into like independent we work. So, yeah, it's so. So you're doing a lot of substack bonding, a lot of, there's a. Yeah, it's Matt. Gladysius. It's sort of organized it. So I get to talk to him. Oh, you're there in D.C. is Matt is there? Yep.

1:10.8

Wow. Yeah, it's Matt. It's sort of organized it. So I get to talk to him. Oh, you're there in D.C.

1:11.9

Matt is there?

1:13.2

Yep.

1:14.5

Wow.

1:15.4

Tell him I said hello.

1:16.7

I will do that.

1:18.6

So let me introduce us.

1:22.0

I'm Robert Wright, publisher of NonZo Newsletter.

1:24.5

This is a non-zero podcast.

1:25.6

You're Tim Lee, publisher of the Understanding AI newsletter.

1:29.2

And in a way, this is the Understanding AI podcast as well.

1:33.6

Because we've been having these monthly conversations.

1:36.3

It's something we're kind of experimenting with to see if that makes sense as a rhythm for a podcast about AI.

1:42.9

I think that there may be value in looking back of the last month and making sure, uh, the big stuff gets, gets covered in a kind of one-stop shopping way. Um, in any event that the podcast is posted on your newsletter, uh, your subsect site, uh, as well as, as, uh, on mine and being in my feed and so on.

2:02.5

So what, so we, one interesting dynamic that's emerging between us, I think, is that I'm more worried about AI than you are.

2:12.5

And this, of course, may just be a dispositional thing.

2:16.7

But that doesn't mean that one of us won't turn out to be right.

2:21.3

So we're talking about, I'm a little bit of a worrier.

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