I think what this moment should be for the United States and for the rest of the world is a wake-up call that this regime is extremely dangerous to its own people and to the region and that it should be intolerable that the regime itself continues.

We can see that Iranians want something different. There are many tools that the United States and its partners can use to try to help prepare

for some kind of a transition to build support for opposition within Iran and to really

isolate and apply pressure in every possible way on this regime. It's Unholy. I'm Unholy. I'm Unlevi in Tel Aviv.

And I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.

And this week we will be talking to Dr. Suzanne Maloney, an expert on Iran on what is happening

inside and where this is all heading. It's also five years ago

today, exactly, that unholy aired its very first episode. We will also be talking about this

later in the show, but we do recognize there are more important things going on in the world

right now. There are so many, lots of them to talk about. So we will just park the celebration and sort of poppers and a bottle of bubbly.

And we will delay that while we talk about what has been a really intense week in the region

and in particular in Iran.

And just shocking numbers.

I think that's the thing that has been so, you know, hard about this last week or so,

is that we knew, of course, the Iranians would crack down, the regime, would crack down extremely hard on these protests,

this eruption of mass protests on the streets.

But the crackdown and, you know, reports of it are obviously always limited because it's

very, very hard to operate and to cover that.

But we're hearing reports of at least, I mean, the regime itself has admitted to thousands

killed, moed, gun down, mode down. But some talking about,

you know, five figures, maybe more than 10,000, maybe even up to 20,000, we don't know,

reports of just morgues overflowing with bodies, gunned down by their own people, by their own

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