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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Trump vs. the world, Protests in Iran and the Draft bill - with Amos Hochstein

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Yonit Levi, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Jews, Religion & Spirituality, Israel, Jewish, Judaism, Israel Podcast, Middle East, Jonathan Freedland, Documentary

4.7770 Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2026

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Watch us on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Kq_5JLTH8ls Follow us on social media and join Patreon to get more of Unholy: https://linktr.ee/unholypo As President Trump scrambles what used to be known as the international order, abducting a foreign dictator and threatening to invade an ally’s territory, Iranians take to the streets, driven by deepening economic despair. Back in Israel, a very different kind of unrest is unfolding, as tens of thousands of ultra-Orthodox protesters mobilise against a draft bill that strikes at the heart of a long-standing social contract. Yonit and Jonathan make sense of it all with former Biden official Amos Hochstein, who helped broker the 2024 Lebanon ceasefire agreement, asking not just what connects these flashpoints, but what comes next in an increasingly volatile world.

Transcript

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0:00.0

He's running the board because there is no board.

0:03.1

Europe's pronouncements after everything that he does on tariffs against them.

0:08.2

Venezuela, whatever else he does is we are deeply concerned and we may even have a meeting about it.

0:16.2

You look even at Greenland.

0:17.5

He's threatening to invade Europe essentially.

0:20.3

And Europe has zero response.

0:22.9

Nothing. Everything is about placating. They read him wrong every time, and then they repeat it the next time.

0:29.7

And then they recognize that they read it wrong, and they do it again.

0:32.4

Thank you. It's Unholy. I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.

0:47.2

And I'm Unleave and Tel Aviv.

0:48.8

And it's Unholy, Two Jews on the news.

0:51.1

That voice you heard belongs to Amos Hochstein, former special envoy of the Biden administration, man who brokered a ceasefire in Lebanon, an ideal person to talk to for our rapidly, dizzingly changing world, which we're obviously going to get into from Venezuela to Greenland, almost close to our two Nords on the Fjords idea,

1:13.2

about a Danish version of Unholy, for which we still wait.

1:17.5

We wait for someone to pick that up, please.

1:20.4

Please. We just gave you an idea for free.

1:22.6

Please pick it up.

1:23.2

We did.

1:24.0

But I am told something like that is in the works.

1:25.9

But, you know, we wait patiently for that.

1:29.7

Meanwhile, I mean, I don't know how big we are in Denmark, but I had a very uncanny feeling that

1:33.8

somebody was listening to us because just this week I was, you know, always like to be very

1:39.3

ahead of the curve. I was at a play called Christmas Day. It should have obviously been there before December

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