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Stay Tuned with Preet

Iran and Trump’s War Psychology (with Jim Sciutto)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

4.832.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

CNN’s chief national security analyst Jim Sciutto joins Preet to discuss the Iran war, Trump’s psychology of force, and the return of great power conflict.  Then, Preet answers listener questions. He explains the relevance of birthright citizenship to Native American tribes and the special treatment congresspeople are receiving at airports.  In the bonus for Insiders, Preet and Sciutto discuss the controversy surrounding press coverage at the Defense Department.  Join the Insider community for access to bonus content from Stay Tuned and weekly episodes of the Insider podcast hosted by Preet and Joyce Vance. Head to cafe.com/insider to sign up. Thank you for supporting our work. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available on our website.  You can now watch this episode! Head to CAFE’s Youtube channel and subscribe. Shop Stay Tuned merch and featured books by our guests in our Amazon storefront. Have a question for Preet? Ask @PreetBharara on BlueSky, or Twitter with the hashtag #AskPreet. Email us at staytuned@cafe.com, or call 833-997-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is brought to you by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, welcome to stay tuned.

0:05.8

I'm Preet Bharara.

0:08.8

There were folks who, for years, could never imagine the U.S. carrying out limited strikes on Iran, right?

0:14.5

If you go back to the 12-day war, he dropped those bunker busters, right?

0:17.7

And you had presidents through multiple administrations who never would have gone to full-scale war with Iran, and here they are. So if you're a Putin or a Xi or a Kim Jong-un,

0:26.3

you know, you quite reasonably might look at that and say, well, he might go further than we imagined.

0:36.7

Welcome to stay tuned.

0:38.6

I'm Preet Bharara.

0:40.0

My guest this week is Jim Shuto.

0:42.3

He is CNN's chief national security analyst.

0:45.2

His latest book is called The Return of Great Powers, Russia, China, and the next world war.

0:51.0

That's coming up.

0:52.5

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