Swalwell, Blanche, Bondi & Presidential Records Act (with Mimi Rocah)
Stay Tuned with Preet
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🗓️ 14 April 2026
⏱️ 14 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey folks, Joyce Vance here. Preet is traveling this week, so today I'm joined by our friend and |
| 0:07.0 | colleague Mimi Roka for a new episode of The Insider podcast, and we're sharing an excerpt with listeners of |
| 0:13.1 | Stay tuned. Mimi is the former district attorney for Westchester County, New York, and a former |
| 0:18.3 | assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. |
| 0:21.5 | Now she's a law professor at Fordham School of Law, and she writes a monthly column for the |
| 0:26.0 | Stay Tuned with Prete substack. |
| 0:28.0 | Mimi joins me to talk about the Manhattan DA's investigation into sexual assault accusations |
| 0:33.6 | against Representative Eric Swalwell. |
| 0:35.8 | Then we turn to an OLC opinion that deemed the Presidential Records Act unconstitutional. |
| 0:41.9 | Finally, we discussed the former and acting attorneys general, Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche. |
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| 1:07.8 | or stay tuned.substack.com. Now, on to the show. |
| 1:16.8 | So let's talk a little bit about the Presidential Records Act. This is a little bit of |
| 1:21.7 | arcane legal stuff and not something that we typically discuss, but it goes back to Watergate because in 1978, |
| 1:30.1 | in the wake of Watergate, Congress passes a law that makes all of the president's records. |
| 1:36.2 | They become property of the United States, not of the president. |
| 1:40.1 | They're explicitly not personal property of the officials, president, vice presidents, their |
| 1:45.5 | staffs whose desks they cross. And the law mandates that they be transferred to the National |
| 1:52.1 | Archives and Records Administration, NARA, as soon as the president leaves office. But now, |
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