Hey, chameleon listeners. It's Vanessa from season one of chameleon, Hollywood Concubine.

This week I'm sharing something special with you. It's an episode of an incredible podcast

that I've been binging and it's called Alphabet Boys. Alphabet Boys takes you inside secret

investigations that the FBI, DEA, CIA, and other alphabet agencies never wanted you to

know about. These cases are both dangerous and absurd and they raise a troubling question.

Are America's top cops catching criminals? Or are they creating them? Season two of Alphabet

Boys is out now. I'm going to play you an excerpt with host Trevor Erinzen, who you might

recognize from a chameleon season. High rollers. This is a real-life spy story where nothing

is at all what it seems. In this episode, you're going to hear real audio from an illegal

arms dealer and meet our central character. Who, despite being arrested, claims he works

for the CIA. But does he? It'll make you wonder who are the good guys and who are the

bad guys? Okay, here comes the episode. Search for Alphabet Boys wherever you get your podcasts.

Sometimes when federal law enforcement agencies investigate crimes, they unwittingly target

the informants or undercover agents of other agencies. This season is one of those stories.

A simmering alphabet soup with the DEA, the CIA, and the FBI all mixed up in the same

case.

It took a long time to meet you. How are you? Good. Thank you for coming. How you been?

Welcome. How are you? Okay, this is for you. I didn't know you were coming. Thank you very

much. Thank you. This is it to my way. How are you? This may sound like small talk, but

what you're hearing is in a legal arms deal. It's December 2014 and two Romanian men

are in a hotel room in the country of Montenegro. They're meeting with three Colombians. The

Romanians are named Flavio Giorgescu and Christian Ventilla. And they've arranged for the Colombians

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