Interview with a Pedophile Follow Up (Part 1)
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 14 December 2022
⏱️ 108 minutes
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Summary
00:00 Trigger warnings & the reality of NOMAPs
09:47 'Normal' familial relationship intimacy
35:53 Jay's unreliable narration, boundaries, & Humberto's trauma
45:27 Assessing what's appropriate
46:12 Avoiding child exploitation & if Jay was Dr. Kirk's brother
58:08 Listening with a bias & finding sympathy
1:01:59 Language around being triggered & trigger warnings
1:26:21 Perpetrators seeking victims
1:35:15 Childhood sexuality
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, deserving listeners. You might remember a couple of months ago, I published an interview titled |
| 0:05.4 | Interview with a pedophile in which I interviewed someone who went by the name of Jay. That's not his |
| 0:12.2 | real name. By the way, major trigger warning for this whole episode similar to the interview with Jay. |
| 0:18.7 | If you have triggers and PTSD and trauma or you think you might have triggers and trauma regarding |
| 0:26.7 | sexual abuse or abuse of children, then I would absolutely not listen to this episode and talk |
| 0:31.8 | with your therapist first before listening because this kind of content could harm you in very |
| 0:37.7 | profound ways that I do not want to happen to you. So just be careful. Anyway, so in my interview |
| 0:46.3 | with Jay, he identifies as a no map or non-offending minor attracted person, meaning that he is sexually |
| 0:55.9 | romantically attracted to children, but is non-offending, meaning he has not offended. He has not |
| 1:02.8 | harmed children and is trying to not harm children. But he has these inner urges, these inner |
| 1:10.8 | feelings, inner attractions. And in that interview, it was a long interview, very interesting interview. |
| 1:17.6 | And I learned a lot and furthered my understanding and my compassion for people who |
| 1:24.5 | suffer from this attraction. Now, of course, there are people who have attractions to children and |
| 1:32.9 | will commit offenses and will abuse and harm children. Sometimes dozens, if not hundreds of children, |
| 1:40.1 | and these people need to be sanctioned. And we have every reason in the world to be upset at |
| 1:46.3 | these people and to judge these people and to shame these offenders because is highly traumatizing |
| 1:52.6 | the children. But to those individuals who suffer from this attraction, they didn't choose to be |
| 1:59.0 | attracted to children in all likelihood, seemingly. And they are doing everything they can to prevent |
| 2:05.7 | themselves from harming children. We don't need to stigmatize them. And the broader topic is that |
| 2:13.1 | if we are going to reduce the abuse to children, then obviously we're interested in that, right? |
| 2:20.4 | Then we have to reduce the stigma about people being attracted to children. Just having an |
| 2:26.3 | attraction does not mean you automatically will act on it. And if we lump all people who have those |
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