Interview with a Pedophile - Follow Up (Part 2)
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 16 December 2022
⏱️ 87 minutes
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Summary
00:32 Pedophile OCD vs MAP07:58 Anxiety around pedophilia OCD
09:19 ID'ing as a MAP
14:38 Preventative measures
25:05 YouTube comments
33:11 Sympathy for Jay, conceptualization & systems thinking
50:24 A nuanced position & violent urges
59:37 Nic's email
1:00:30 Exploring the bigger picture & speaking to your children
1:17:40 NOMAPs in Germany & an ideal situation to reduce harm
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| 0:00.0 | Hey dessert listeners, today's episode is part two in which I read your emails in response to |
| 0:07.7 | the interview with a pedophile that I posted a couple of months ago with someone who went by the name |
| 0:13.7 | of Jay. So if you want to listen to that previous episode from a couple of months ago and then |
| 0:19.2 | listen to the previous episode in which I responded to the emails and then listen to the rest of this |
| 0:24.5 | episode, I would do that. I wouldn't listen to this episode before listening to this previous two. |
| 0:29.4 | All right, so let's get to your emails. Anonymous patron, she wrote and says, |
| 0:34.1 | what is the difference between pedophile OCD and actually being a |
| 0:39.2 | minor attracted person? Okay, so what pedophilic or pedophilia or pedophile themed obsessive |
| 0:47.5 | compulsive disorder? Let me explain. They're completely separate things because they often get |
| 0:53.3 | lumped in together, but they are very, very, very different things. Okay, so what pedophilic |
| 0:59.8 | or pedophilia obsessive compulsive disorder is, is it's basically a type of OCD. Let me tell you |
| 1:07.2 | about a different analogous type of OCD that will help. There are some people that have |
| 1:14.4 | obsessions that if they walk across a bridge, they're going to jump off. So if they have full |
| 1:22.4 | blown OCD around this issue and you talk to them, you'll say, so are you suicidal? And the client |
| 1:29.3 | will say, no, absolutely not. I'm not suicidal. So what are you saying? And the client says, well, |
| 1:36.4 | when I am about to cross a bridge, I have overwhelming intrusive thoughts that I might have an |
| 1:46.4 | impulse to just leap off the bridge and kill myself. And I'll say, have you ever, and so |
| 1:53.5 | eyes, the therapist, I say, have you ever done that before? Have you ever reached for the rail |
| 1:58.3 | and almost jumped off a bridge? And they say, no, I've never done that. I say, do you have some |
| 2:04.4 | sort of trauma around your impulse control? Like you accidentally did something on impulse and |
| 2:12.9 | it was terribly consequential negatively. And so you just worry, are you generally |
| 2:19.7 | impulsive? And the client is like, no, I'm the opposite. I'm very careful about my behavior. |
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