You are listening to the 10 minute entrepreneur podcast with host Sean Castrina.

Okay, today's going to be a unique podcast. I have Paul Austin with me here today.

He's the founder of Third Wave and educational company, but we're going to be talking about

psychedelics. That's what I just got in my pre-show.

It's in all my notes.

I know he's featured in Forbes magazine Rolling Stone

and he's going to tell me why Elon Musk and Steve Jobs had used a unique method to be as creative as they've been

Paul it's great to have you on the podcast.

Thanks for having me on Sean.

All right so we're going to talk about psychedelic so so you could, you're literally talking to the opposite end of the spectrum.

So tell me why entrepreneurs, because I've got to hear this one.

I want to hear why entrepreneurs are micro dosing and you're the you're the expert of that I had to use that word because you're the you're the pro at I guess that's making sure you don't take enough so you take enough to be creative and not enough to be an idiot. Yeah, exactly. So there's a fascinating history, you know, Silicon Valley was born from LSD. So there was a lot of research done in the 1950s at Stanford and a lot of those folks who were involved in that early research ended up going on to be pioneers in the computer revolution.

So this guy Douglas Engelbart who invented the computer mouse and computer interface, said

LST was very helpful in that process.

Steve Jobs said LSD was one of the most impactful things that he's ever done.

And then we've heard these recent stories about Aaron Rogers, you know, NFL MVP,

who has worked with psychedelics as well as Elon Musk,

Sergei Bryn, and many others.

And so what's interesting about psychedelics

is the impact that they have on the brain,

they help to facilitate something called neuroplasticity.

And neuroplasticity is centrally important to learn and adapt.

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