A very common phrase is, I couldn't bring anything up to you.

Every time I tried to bring up the feeling, the need, the, hey, we could be better at this,

hey, could we, you know, talk about this, that you got so defensive and it turned into a fight.

Because if everything turns into a fight, if everything turns into you getting defensive

and now making it about how that's not okay, I'm not going to want to open up anymore.

Welcome to Empower Her podcast where we're all about transparency, fun, and getting out of

our own damn way to build lives we really freaking love.

My name's Keisha. I'm a wife, mom, and serial

entrepreneur obsessed with pulling back the curtain in a very come with me. Let's figure out

life together kind of way. Because let's be real. Aren't we all just figuring it out as we go?

My intention with this show is that you leave each episode feeling so seen, but also with

some tactical tools to help get you from where you are now to where you want to go in your

life, career, relationships, and maybe even in your journey as a mom too. So girlfriend,

let's do the damn thing. Girl, buckle on up.

This is such a juicy conversation.

I'm so excited.

We have Jocelyn Freeman on the show.

You may know her because her and her husband, Aaron, have a super large Instagram following around 900,000.

They're Meet the Freeman's, and they talk all about relationships and marriage.

They're co-authors of the

argument hangover. They're both podcast hosts of empowered couples. They've got master's degree in

psychology. They've been helping couples as marriage coaches for over a decade. They've sold out

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