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The Chuck ToddCast

Intel community reeling after Pentagon leak exposes military secrets

The Chuck ToddCast

iHeartPodcasts

Government, News

4.02.8K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2023

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

The release of purported classified documents from the Department of Defense — many of them labeled Top Secret — threw the intelligence community into chaos this week. Former CIA Director John Brennan and NBC News Pentagon Correspondent Courtney Kube join Chuck to detail what we know while as the culprit and motive of the leak remain unclear.

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0:00.0

Hello there, I'm Chuck Todd and this is the Chuck Todd cast.

0:08.4

So the Biden administration in the Intel community, we're thrown into a bit of chaos.

0:12.7

These last few days is some classified defense documents from that appear to come from the

0:17.6

defense department.

0:18.6

We're leaked last week, marking the biggest Intel leak in a decade.

0:25.7

And so far there's no clear culprit in sight and I used the words leak and hack interchangeably

0:30.8

and I shouldn't.

0:31.8

Is it a leak or is it a hack?

0:33.2

That's a big question here.

0:34.8

The documents which appeared on social media in early March included everything from

0:37.8

details on US espionage efforts into the Russian military, as well as internal assessments

0:44.0

of Ukraine's combat power, as well as intelligence that were gathered on some key allies like

0:48.4

South Korean Israel, as well as Egypt, UAE, several of the documents that were released

0:54.3

were marked top secret.

0:55.3

There are a lot of unanswered questions around these leaks who took them, posted them.

0:59.8

It's like, look like old fashioned espionage, somebody taking pictures of papers and leaking

1:04.1

it that way.

1:05.1

So what was the motive and how much damage has already been done?

1:08.0

I'm joined today by a former CIA director, John Brennan.

1:11.8

He at least I think can give us a good perspective of how something like this might have circulated.

1:18.3

And Courtney Cubies, our Pentagon correspondent who covers national security in the Pentagon.

1:22.9

And this appears to have started there first.

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