Inside the Love Lab with Drs. John & Julie Gottman (Part 2)

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 14.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In Part 2 of Dr. Laurie’s conversation with researchers Dr. John Gottman and Dr. Julie Schwartz Gottman, we learn how couples can raise complaints without damaging their relationship — and how to respond constructively when a partner voices a concern. Their research shows that fighting doesn’t have to pull couples apart. When handled well, conflict can actually make relationships stronger.

Further reading: Fight Right: How Successful Couples Turn Conflict into Connection by Dr. John Gottman and Dr. Julie Schwartz Gottman.

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0:00.0	Pushkin.
0:11.3	Hey, Happiness Lab listeners.
0:15.4	This week we're wrapping up our mini-season on the science of relationships, with the second of two, in case you missed it,
0:21.7	throwback episodes, some of my favorites in the history of the Happiness Lab.
0:26.2	Today you'll get to hear the second half of my two-part conversation with husband and wife
0:30.4	research team John and Julie Gottman, a couple who spent over 50 years studying the science of love.
0:36.9	In this episode, the Gottman's
0:38.4	share what science shows about how couples can argue better and why the way you fight matters
0:43.3	more than what you fight about. If you're in a relationship or ever hoped to be, these
0:48.4	insights are not to be missed. So stay with us to hear their amazing advice right after these
0:54.0	short ads.
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