Inside COP: Brazil's Climate Leadership - the COP30 host takes centre stage

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🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

What is Brazil trying to achieve with COP30? It's Day Two in Belém and all eyes are on the host nation.

Join Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac as they unpack how the country is shaping the first days of COP30 - and the quiet strategy behind Ambassador André Corrêa do Lago’s leadership.

With the release of the Call of Belém for the Climate, they explore what may be a masterstroke of multilateral diplomacy. And friend of the show Thais Bilenky joins us to break down how the early days of the summit are playing out in Brazilian media and on the streets of Belém.

With the support of the Arapyaú Institute, this episode also turns the spotlight on Brazil’s own climate progress. How is a nation, standing at the bridge between the Global North and the emerging Global Majority, using this moment of global attention to tell a new story: one defined by solutions, not sacrifice? We hear from Renata Piazzon, Director General of Arapyaú, whose mission is to reframe Brazil’s climate story - showing the opportunity that lies in regeneration, restoration, and a thriving social bioeconomy.

And Marina Silva, Brazil’s Minister for the Environment and Climate Change, joins Christiana to share her call for an Ethical Global Stocktake - a reminder that sustainability is not only a way of doing, but a way of being.

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🌴 Explore the work of the Arapyaú Institute

⚖️ Read about the Global Ethical Stocktake

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Producer: Ben Weaver-Hincks

Edited by: Miles Martignoni

Video Producer: Caitlin Hanrahan

Exec Producer: Ellie Clifford

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to InsideCop from Outrage and Optimism.
0:05.3	I'm Tom Riffick-Karnak.
0:06.2	I'm Cristiano Figueres.
0:07.6	Today, we are bringing you a focus on the host country, Brazil,
0:10.9	with interviews with Marina Silver, Brazil's Minister of the Environment,
0:14.5	and Renata Piazon, Director General of the Arapiao Institute.
0:18.8	Thanks for joining us. Okay, Christiana, today we're going to get into a couple of brilliant conversations. I mean, honestly, Marina Silver. Because we're in Brazil. Because we're in Brazil. We're going to go big on Brazil. Yeah, Brazil is great. The food is great. The cop is great. But before we do, I think we should get into a little bit about what's been going on at the cop because it's been a pretty consequential first day.
0:41.9	Can we actually, before we get into that, can we say how heartbreaking it is that almost every time that we meet for a cop, there is a horrible typhoon in the Philippines. How is it possible?
0:56.0	So this time around, at least counting now, eight dead and a million displaced people.
1:02.5	The Philippines is consistently a warning bell for us that we're just simply not doing our job well enough yet.
1:14.3	So our hearts definitely go out to the Philippines once again, once again.
1:22.1	100%.
1:23.0	Well, well done for mentioning that at the beginning.
1:24.9	Just absolutely horrifying news right after what happened also in the Caribbean. So thank you for that, Christiana. Now, of course, the COP is where
1:33.4	we're trying to formulate a coordinated global response to ensure these things don't go worse.
1:37.9	So let's have a look at how that's going.
1:43.3	Our glaciers are melting.
1:45.5	Today was the opening ceremony.
1:47.4	Simon Steele of the UNF Triple C opened the cop,
1:50.2	talking appropriately enough based on how you started this, he said,
1:53.3	to squabble while famines take hold, forcing millions to flee their homelands.
2:00.9	This will never be forgotten as conflicts spread.
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