Inside COP: The COP30 President Speaks, the Summit Begins
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
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🗓️ 10 November 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
COP30 is here!
Day one dawns in the Amazon, and all eyes are on the host nation - and on the man tasked with steering the talks.
On the eve of what could be the most consequential COP since Paris, Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac sat down with Ambassador André Corrêa do Lago, Brazil’s COP30 President, for an inside look at his priorities: the tone he hopes to set and the outcomes he hopes to see for this pivotal summit.
How does he view the difference between negotiation and implementation? How can leaders sustain confidence in progress when some countries aren’t even in the room? And what will it take to restore faith that this process can still deliver?
The science is unsparing: the 1.5°C limit is no longer a distant prospect but a fast-approaching threshold. Meanwhile, the geopolitical framework on which multilateral cooperation depends is under strain. Against this backdrop, Ambassador Corrêa do Lago faces an unenviable task: to steer a divided world toward unity, and to turn ambition into action on the banks of the Amazon. Can he do it?
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Edited by: Miles Martignoni
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Inside Cop from Outrage and Optimism. |
| 0:06.6 | I'm Tom Rufit Karni. |
| 0:07.6 | I'm Christiana Figueres and listeners. |
| 0:09.6 | This really is going to be an episode about the inside of the cop. |
| 0:14.6 | COP 30 has begun. |
| 0:16.0 | We're going to bring you some analysis and we speak to cop president, Andreio de Lago. Thanks for being here. |
| 0:27.3 | So the first thing to say, of course, is that the Bel-Emm Climate Summit ended last week as the heads of state left. |
| 0:33.6 | There's some interesting outcomes from here. Brazil's President Lula, of course, was a really |
| 0:38.2 | important participant, and he set a really high ambition tone. He called this a cop of truth |
| 0:43.2 | and anchored it in the concept of a muci-d-ao. Multilateral climate action was, of course, |
| 0:48.3 | really defended with leaders talking about the progress since Paris. And there were some |
| 0:52.7 | encouraging signs on the intention of the cop to follow up on things like fossil fuel transition, |
| 0:58.1 | commitments around forest protection, a lot of endorsement of the tropical forest forever facility, |
| 1:03.3 | 53 countries, together also, as we talked about previously, with some capitalisation. |
| 1:08.3 | But however, there was also a lot of silence. |
| 1:10.2 | We didn't really hear very much on finance, much on adaptation, much on loss and damage. |
| 1:15.0 | There was hardly anything on the nationally determined contributions. |
| 1:18.2 | So a bit of a mixed picture with some real political momentum, but a lot of questions remaining |
| 1:22.6 | for the COP. |
| 1:23.1 | In a form of plan, and just, revert their desmattamento, |
| 1:27.1 | superal the dependent on the combustive of fosters |
| 1:29.4 | and mobilizing the resources necessary for these objectives. |
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