So listeners, our wonderful production team was all ready to drop this episode for you when we heard of these protests that are ongoing at the cop venue.

So we just stop the dropping of the episode for a few minutes to bring you updated news of what is happening here on the ground.

Tonight, as delegates here on the ground.

Tonight, as delegates were leaving the cop venue in the evening, about 6, 7 o'clock at night,

there were some protests that started outside on the street and then moved their way into the cop venue. And there were actually clashes

between the protesters and security guards. So for the time being, we just wanted to

share with our listeners that this is happening. It is perhaps even predictable, has happened before, and with, of course,

with justification for the injustices that we have caused, especially to indigenous and First

Nations people. And I would say it is actually to the credit of the COP presidency that they have not

built a unscalable security wall around the COP venue. Neither have they done that, nor have they

had any policy to keep voices that don't agree with

the process out. To the contrary, they have been very open and very inviting of all types of voices.

We understand that one or two security guards were hurt in this encounter.

We hope that they're all right and we hope that this is not going to lead to any more physical

confrontation. We will be covering this in more depth as the cop proceeds and it will be very interesting to see what the impact of these protests and the very visible

presence of indigenous peoples, how that is going to influence the political outcome of this

comp. the political outcome of this COP.

Hello and welcome to InsideCOP from Outrage and Optimism.

I'm Tom Rivakana.

I'm Christiana Figueres.

And I'm Fiona McGrath.

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