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locked in man we're at the lake cumberland recovery HR office right now thank you to the team

over at lake cumberland for helping us

set all this up, connecting us to you. You have a very unique story because you just got out

of federal prison after 24 years just a few weeks ago. Yeah, I've been out about 11 months.

Oh, 11 months. Okay. Sorry about that. Wow. So what's it like to be home? Everything new, man. It's like when I got out and they gave me a cell phone and it's got a computer on you, you do this, you do this, you do this. When I went in, it was a keypad. It wasn't a computer on a cell phone. So everything kind of like new, you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think you ever expected to be doing a

podcast no I kind of got set up on this one my friend Jessica Johnson over here in her set me up

well and she'll be on the podcast so she she unfortunately made you go first but you're the guinea pig

make sure and answer ask her to hard questions when she gets up oh yeah, yeah. She's in for a tough one. Don't worry, Evan. We've been preparing for her for a year now because they skated on me last year. They were supposed to come to Connecticut, and they bailed on old McLevin over here. But they're all listening in and on this, so they're going to kind of get an idea where we're going. Did you grow up in Kentucky? I did. I grew up about an hour from here in Mount Vernon, Kentucky. And is that like the country, Kentucky? Where I was. It's farm country, small town, small community. And did you grow up big family, parents? I had five siblings and both my parents. And you are how old in the mix of all your

siblings? I'm next to the youngest. I got older brother, sisters, one younger brother.

And were you guys close-knit? Yeah, we was pretty much always stuck together, you know,

to even after my older sibling married and had their own family, they would all come together maybe monthly or something and have dinners or whatever was going on. So we always stayed pretty close. If we had all your siblings here right now, how would they describe you? What do you think would be their, you know, one line or about you? Well, they probably couldn't describe me in one line. They'd do it before and after or something. All right, so how would they describe you before? Because we're going back in time right now. The audience doesn't really know who you are yet. How would they describe you back then 24 years ago? Probably I was on a crash course. I mean, it was pretty obvious. The rubble I was heading down with dead end, you know what I mean? but a couple ways out, either dead or prison or jails or something of that nature, you know what I mean. Where did they all end up? Did any of them end up in prison? I had two brothers end up in prison, and one brother and two sisters. They never did get in any trouble. Now, your parents, did they ever go to prison? Did they have any? No, they was straight and narrow. We was the one that jumped off the other direction. When you were in prison, did you ever think about, you know, why that was? Like, you guys came from a good family, you know, farm family, and then you guys kind of went off the railroads there. I don't know. a lot of it, you know, you can blame it on a lot of things, but it's a personal choice, but a lot of it's community too because, you know, at that time, the crowd that we was with would be drinking or smoking weed or whatever and everybody. Some of them got off and went, you know, different direction. We could pretty much date on the road that headed us to prison, you know.

If you had to attribute, like, one thing from your childhood that you think, looking back on it,

led to prison, what do you think that would be?

It would probably be the decision I made, because I was raised in a church home environment

and stuff.

And my early teens, I kind of got slipping away from church and

hanging around with the wrong crowd so I think that was the decision that led me on the road to

destruction walking away from what I know off end of what I didn't know you know with drugs and

alcohol and stuff comes with it so I think that was the major decision to walk away from

pretty much my raising upbringing you know So I think that was a major decision to walk away from pretty much my raise and upbringing, you know.

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