Welcome to our hen house.

This is Jasmine Singer.

This is Mary Ann Sullivan.

And this week's guest is once again Bob Fisher, who is going to help us process the whole question of insects.

Should we care? Why should we care?

How can we afford to care when we can't even get

people to stop torturing cows and pigs? And if we do care, how much should we care? And assuming we do

care, what should we do about it? These are some very good questions. And I know a lot of people

are absolutely perplexed by this subject, but it's a big subject,

and I think it's going to become an even bigger one.

Yeah, and I'm not sure perplex is the only word.

It's just like, don't we have enough to do?

I feel in myself, and I sense it's in other people, although I could be making it up,

just this frustration that all of a sudden this has become such a hot issue.

And we can't seem to get any traction on animals that everybody loves.

So it just, it makes everything seem very, very hard.

And on the other hand, if they're sentient, and I've always kind of assumed they at least might be, you know, except for cockroaches,

which I admit I killed. I generally try to get them out in the yard and, you know, just scoot

them out of the house. I'm not a spider killer by any means. So I guess I've always worried

about whether they were sentient, but having it confirmed really, really changes the game,

doesn't it? It's a really important topic,

I think, one that I have been resisting wanting to talk about. Yeah. Because I kind of don't even

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