Information Disorder During and After the Trump Presidency
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 21 January 2021
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
During his inaugural address yesterday, President Biden spoke about the subject of this podcast: disinformation. “There is truth and there are lies,” Biden said, “lies told for power and for profit.” And he asked Americans to unify rather than “turn inward” against those “who don't get their news from the same sources you do.”
But in an era of QAnon and pandemic disinformation, how will that unification be possible? The day before the inauguration, Evelyn Douek and Quinta Jurecic spoke with Kate Starbird, an associate professor of Human Centered Design & Engineering at the University of Washington, for this first episode of Lawfare's Arbiters of Truth miniseries under the Biden administration. Kate last came on the podcast in March 2020 to discuss disinformation and misinformation around the coronavirus, and she has had a long year since then researching online ecosystems around the pandemic and supposed voter fraud. And the Capitol riot on January 6 threw all this into sharp relief, as the things that Kate studies every day boiled over into mainstream consciousness with a vengeance. They spoke with Kate about what led up to the riot, what the disinformation landscape looks like now and what kind of work will be required to move forward.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.9 | I am not real confident that there is some solution that's going to change the minds of a large |
| 0:41.9 | number of people that are now convinced of the voter front narrative. |
| 0:45.4 | And that's hard because we know that this is, this is, it becomes a vulnerability at the |
| 0:48.8 | heart of democracy when people no longer trust the results of their election. |
| 0:54.0 | I'm Quinted Jurassic and this is the LawFair podcast January 21st, 2021. |
| 1:01.8 | Today we're bringing you the first episode of our Arbiters of Truth mini-series under |
| 1:06.2 | the Biden administration. |
| 1:08.8 | During his inaugural address yesterday, President Biden spoke about the subject of this podcast, |
| 1:14.3 | disinformation. |
| 1:16.3 | There is truth and there are lies Biden said, lies told for power and for profit. |
| 1:22.6 | And he asked Americans to unify rather than turn inward against those who don't get |
| 1:28.1 | their news from the same sources you do. |
| 1:31.1 | But in an era of QAnon and pandemic disinformation, how will that unification be possible? |
| 1:37.2 | The day before the inauguration, Evelyn Dwick and I spoke with Kate Starbird, an associate |
| 1:42.5 | professor of human-centered design and engineering at the University of Washington. |
| 1:47.9 | She last came on the podcast in March 2020 to discuss disinformation and misinformation |
| 1:52.8 | around the coronavirus. |
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