Dan Byman on the Sequel that Never Came to Be
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🗓️ 22 January 2021
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
It was supposed to be the big sequel to the January 6 "Stop the Steal" rally-turned-riot. It was supposed to be the largest armed protest in the history of the United States, taking place in all 50 state capitals. And yet, Inauguration Day turned out to be peaceful. Protesters were few; acts of violence were even fewer. It's a major counterterrorism success, and like many major counterterrorism successes, it has largely been unremarked upon. How did we go without the sequel to the bloody events of January 6? To what extent should we credit law enforcement action or the deplatforming of the president and his followers, or is the explanation something entirely different? To talk it through, Benjamin Wittes sat down with Dan Byman, Lawfare's foreign policy editor and counterterrorism expert, who has identified six major factors that likely contributed to this week's success.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.0 | There was a sense among the existing police that this was much more serious, right? |
| 0:39.2 | We wanted the things that we could go back in time. |
| 0:41.8 | I think the capital police would do is recognize the danger much earlier than they did. |
| 0:47.5 | And yet I think 14 days later, everyone's aware that this is quite a real threat. |
| 0:53.3 | But some places they simply didn't have the legislature show up or wasn't supposed |
| 0:56.6 | to meet in the first place. |
| 0:57.6 | And obviously, you can protest in empty building, but it's not quite the same. |
| 1:02.5 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast January 22nd, 2021. |
| 1:09.8 | It was supposed to be the big sequel to the stop the steel rally turned riot of January |
| 1:15.7 | 6th. |
| 1:16.9 | It was supposed to be the largest armed protest in the history of the United States in all |
| 1:23.7 | capitals of all 50 states. |
| 1:26.7 | And yet inauguration day turned out to be peaceful. |
| 1:31.1 | Protesters were few acts of violence were even fewer. |
| 1:35.3 | It's a major counterterrorism success. |
| 1:38.2 | And like many major counterterrorism successes, it has largely been unremarked upon. |
| 1:45.6 | How did we go without the sequel to the bloody events of January 6th? |
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