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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Independence, food and a response to Ezra Klein - with special guest Adeena Sussman

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Yonit Levi, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Jews, Religion & Spirituality, Israel, Jewish, Judaism, Israel Podcast, Middle East, Jonathan Freedland, Documentary

4.7770 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Watch us on YouTube: https://youtu.be/1RBYWVXGom0 Follow Unholy and learn more about the pod: https://unholy-podcast.lovable.app/ Join our Patreon community to get access to bonus episodes, discounts on merch and more: https://bit.ly/UnholyPatreon Listen to Aner Shapira z"l and Yehudit Ravitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1XbaGln45Q Pre-order "Zariz" by Adeena Sussman: https://www.adeenasussman.com/zariz Israel's 78th Independence Day arrives in the shadow of a three-year war — and a nation more divided than ever. As US-Iran talks stall and the Lebanon ceasefire holds by a thread, Yonit and Jonathan take stock of where Israel stands: from the parallel ceremonies splitting the country, to Rahm Emanuel's seismic break from past support for Israeli military aid, to Ezra Klein's "one state reality" argument — and why Yonit thinks it misses half the picture. Then: a joyful detour. Adeena Sussman, author of the forthcoming Zariz: 100 Easy, Breezy, Tel Aviv-y Recipes, joins to talk about cooking through a war, the fusion of Jewish and Israeli identity on the plate, and why every pot of Sabbath stew is a political act.

Transcript

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Every pot of Sabbath stew is an announcement that we aren't going away. Shabbat itself is kind of like a national holiday that 80% of the country celebrates on a weekly basis and it revolves around food. So it's constantly providing the sort of impetus to keep moving forward, which is what I feel like Jewish people do, and food has a lot to do with that.

0:23.0

It is a way that Jewish people continue to demonstrate and implement continuity in our lives.

0:46.7

... It's Unholy. I'm Unholy. I'm Unite Levy in Tel Aviv.

0:52.2

And I'm Jonathan Friedland in London. Unholy, two Jews on the news.

0:55.2

And the voice you heard there belongs to Adina Sussman,

1:03.0

chef extraordinaire, author of multiple acclaimed cookbooks, bursting with enthusiasm for her new one.

1:07.7

And it's a wonderful, delightful conversation which we will be bringing you. And it's going to be a lovely conversation. And there will be some culinary confessions from Mr. Friedland.

1:12.2

I'd stick with this conversation.

1:13.6

We talk about culture and history and food.

1:15.8

And of course, this is also the Third Independence Day during a war.

1:19.8

We are awaiting news of renewal of talks between the U.S. and Iran.

1:23.9

So there's a lot of news going on.

1:26.2

Spoiler alert.

1:27.0

The name's Ezra Klein, and perhaps

1:29.4

Ram Emanuel will be said later in our show. But we also want to tell our listeners that there will be

1:34.3

important news from the unholy desk, which means more unholy. There is. Something we've been

1:41.5

aiming for for a while, people tell us they really do enjoy it when we have guests on the show.

1:47.5

They also really like, you know, hearing you and me, go figure.

1:51.5

But what we're going to do is bring you, yes, the usual regular episode every Friday will be Yonita and me talking about the news of the week.

2:00.1

But on Tuesdays, you will have the unholy conversations, bringing you interviews with thinkers,

2:08.4

writers, journalists, people in the news, people out of the news, bringing those to you every

2:14.3

week.

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