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My guest today is Deborah Zlatsky.

Deborah is a painter from the East Coast.

She got her degree in the history of art from Yale and an MFA in

painting and drawing from the University of Connecticut. She currently teaches at

the Rhode Island School of Design. Recent projects include a solo exhibition at Studio Arts Center International in Florence, Italy and an installation drawing at Providence College.

In 2012, she received a New York Foundation for the Arts Fellowship in Painting.

In this episode, Deborah and I talk about what she experiences while she is creating.

She has a strong drive to create order, but as she will tell you, things just keep getting messed up.

So she is constantly pushing and pulling, repairing the disorder, and bringing it back into something that makes sense.

We also talk about how she uses bursts of focus to complete her work and how she designed her

life to accommodate all of her obligations. This ensures that her expectations

match her reality. Deborah is continually making small adjustments that

accumulate into a solid painting practice.

Deborah also uses journaling and does a sort of post-mortem at the end of her day,

something I am a huge, huge fan of.

This habit helps to keep attention on what matters and what makes for intentional deliberate growth.

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