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Welcome to the documentary in the studio from the BBC World Service,

which gets into the mind and process of some of the world's most creative people.

I'm Antonio Quirk and in this programme you'll hear about a project made in circumstances

more challenging than most of us could ever imagine.

Hi Anton! How are you?

Anton Scripetz is a Ukrainian film producer.

He was just 26 when I first met him in February 2023 through colleagues in the Ukrainian film industry.

I'll tell you a little bit about the programme that I was thinking we could make together if you wanted to.

Anton had written and produced the first fiction film to have been made in Ukraine since the start of the full-scale war with Russia.

The film is called Stay Online and it's directed by his sister Yeva Strylnikova.

Can you tell me Anton to tell me how it started?

Well, it was like the third or the fourth day after the huge invasion began.

This is my first conversation with Anton.

The quality of the phone connection came and went as we talked down the line to his flat in Kiev.

He told me that like many young Ukrainians, at the start of the war, he'd volunteered to join the military,

but was told to go home and to wait for further instructions.

I wanted to do something and I thought that I got to make up an idea about Cambodia that it's real to make during the war.

Anton worked in television as a writer and director, but now he was determined to make a feature film,

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