Welcome to our henhouse, Robert.

Good to be here.

I am so excited that you are here, and I want to tell our listeners a little bit about you.

Robert Grillo is, to say the least, an influential activist and an author and a speaker,

who is dedicated to transforming our food system

to a plant-based model through his leadership of the grassroots organization free from harm,

which you've probably heard of. As a fearless advocate, he strategically organizes actions

and events targeting key decision makers whose policies impact

billions of animals, consumers, and the planet's future.

That's a lot of responsibility, Robert.

How are you feeling?

Like, do your shoulders hurt from all that weight on them?

Well, I get up at three in the morning, every morning,

and watch TV for two hours. No, I'm kidding. I do have some sleepless nights, but for the

most part, I mean, I really enjoy what I do and it's nerve-wracking sometimes, but that's how we

grow, right? I mean, when we push ourselves a little bit further beyond what our

comfort zone is and and try to explore what we could become. And so that's kind of for me,

what this process is about and for a lot of other people that join us, I think. I think that you

push yourselves, everybody with free from harm further than most of us do in a really, really fearless way. I think that you push yourselves, everybody with free from harm, further than most of us do

in a really, really fearless way. I know you've been at this for a while, and I'm not sure that

it's always right to start every interview at the beginning of someone's story, but I think that does

fit for you because I think it would help us a lot to hear about your evolution as an activist,

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