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IN THE NEW TIME OF CLOSING DOORS. 4/4: A Beginner's Guide to America: For the Immigrant and the Curious by Roya Hakakian

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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IN THE NEW TIME OF CLOSING DOORS. 4/4: A Beginner's Guide to America: For the Immigrant and the Curious by Roya Hakakian

https://www.amazon.com/Beginners-Guide-America-Immigrant-Curious/dp/0525656065/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622853677&sr=1-1

A stirring, witty, and poignant glimpse into the bewildering American immigrant experience from someone who has lived it. Also, a mirror held up to America.

Into the maelstrom of unprecedented contemporary debates about immigrants in the United States, this perfectly timed book gives us a portrait of what the new immigrant experience in America is really like. Written as a "guide" for the newly arrived, and providing "practical information and advice," Roya Hakakian, an immigrant herself, reveals what those who settle here love about the country, what they miss about their homes, the cruelty of some Americans, and the unceasing generosity of others. She captures the texture of life in a new place in all its complexity, laying bare both its beauty and its darkness as she discusses race, sex, love, death, consumerism, and what it is like to be from a country that is in America's crosshairs. Her tenderly perceptive and surprisingly humorous account invites us to see ourselves as we appear to others, making it possible for us to rediscover our many American gifts through the perspective of the outsider. In shattering myths and embracing painful contradictions that are unique to this place,A Beginner's Guide to America is Hakakian's candid love letter to America

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Conversation with Roya Hakakian, the author, her new book, A Beginner's Guide to America

0:43.4

for the Immigrant and the Curious.

0:45.5

Diplomacy.

0:46.9

The U.S. and Iran have been at odds, and it looks like a war, it talks like a war,

0:53.6

it acts like a war, it's a war since

0:55.5

1979, since the revolution. And Roy has written, many have written of the outrageous

1:02.0

perpetrated by the Mullahs by the regime in Tehran. And yet, maintaining diplomatic relations

1:08.9

is the ambition of states that are at odds.

1:13.7

Geopolitics insists upon it. The puzzle for the immigrant is what to make of the news.

1:19.3

You want to be an American citizen. Your ambition is to be naturalized American citizen.

1:25.7

And yet in the news all the time is the threat of war with your

1:29.7

native land. Roya writes the wonderful image, you're a twilight citizen. You're neither this

1:35.5

or that. You're somewhere in between, especially while you're waiting to be naturalized.

1:40.3

Roya, it is easy to condemn Iran for its human rights.

1:47.8

As it was easy in 1875, it's easy now.

1:55.3

At the same time, the U.S. seeks diplomatic relations, seeks all the time, Iran in the news.

2:03.4

How does the immigrant hear tension between his adopted land, America, and his native land.

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