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IN THE NEW TIME OF CLOSING DOORS. 3/4: A Beginner's Guide to America: For the Immigrant and the Curious by Roya Hakakian

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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IN THE NEW TIME OF CLOSING DOORS. 3/4: A Beginner's Guide to America: For the Immigrant and the Curious by Roya Hakakian

https://www.amazon.com/Beginners-Guide-America-Immigrant-Curious/dp/0525656065/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622853677&sr=1-1

A stirring, witty, and poignant glimpse into the bewildering American immigrant experience from someone who has lived it. Also, a mirror held up to America.

Into the maelstrom of unprecedented contemporary debates about immigrants in the United States, this perfectly timed book gives us a portrait of what the new immigrant experience in America is really like. Written as a "guide" for the newly arrived, and providing "practical information and advice," Roya Hakakian, an immigrant herself, reveals what those who settle here love about the country, what they miss about their homes, the cruelty of some Americans, and the unceasing generosity of others. She captures the texture of life in a new place in all its complexity, laying bare both its beauty and its darkness as she discusses race, sex, love, death, consumerism, and what it is like to be from a country that is in America's crosshairs. Her tenderly perceptive and surprisingly humorous account invites us to see ourselves as we appear to others, making it possible for us to rediscover our many American gifts through the perspective of the outsider. In shattering myths and embracing painful contradictions that are unique to this place,A Beginner's Guide to America is Hakakian's candid love letter to America.
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0:42.5

This is CBS. I'm the World. I'm John Batchel, having a conversation with the author, the literary author, Roya Hakakian. She has a new book. It says it's a story both of her life and the life of other immigrants around her in these last decades, entitled A Beginner's Guide to America for the Immigrant and the Curious.

0:48.7

9-11, Roya's native land, my grandparents' native land, is Iran.

0:52.6

9-11 was a day in which Iran was back in the story.

0:54.3

It's never really been out of the story since 1979 for the United States, but back in the story and a scene in Roy's book, a man living in

1:01.6

Queens who has a view of the skyline of Manhattan, as you do in buildings in Queens, high-rises

1:08.1

in Queens. And the skyline can resemble Tehran.

1:12.4

He's lonely for his native city.

1:14.6

And yet the day of the attack, he sees, well, at some point he hears the news and then he can

1:21.9

see the burning.

1:23.0

What is that moment for this man, Roya?

1:26.3

Well, the man was my dad, and I saw something in him that day that changed my view of immigrants

1:37.4

in America altogether. My father used to sit on the balcony, look at the skyline, and write

1:43.2

poems about how much he missed Iran

1:45.7

and how much he missed Iran. And I believed all along that he had not bonded with this country,

1:55.7

that as much as, you know, he was grateful about being admitted here, he still longed to return and he

2:03.9

didn't have the feelings he had for Iran, for America. And that day, as soon as he saw the smoke

2:12.4

in the sky and saw on the news that a terrible thing had happened. He put his shoes on.

2:18.3

He had macular degeneration, so he could hardly see.

2:22.3

But he reached for his cane and he made his way out of the apartment.

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